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How I Leveraged 44,000 Designers to Create My Logo.

  
  
  
  
  

using leverage to create logoI've been planning to publish this story for quite some time. I'm happy to be finally sharing it with you.

This is a personal story on how I was able to use leverage in creating an awesome logo for my brand 'on the cheap.' Don't confuse 'cheap' with low quality, I mean 'cheap' as in 'inexpensive.'

An impressive logo should be mandatory as it is the first thing that people will see when visiting your website. If you're looking to create or redesign your logo, I've learned how you can throw out a bid to over 44,000 potential designers from across the globe in a single swoop.

The site for this amazing service is 99 Designs (I have no affiliation, contact, or financial incentive with 99Designs). I was shocked how easy it was to get it done. Yes, the logo for PullnotPush was created using this system. My entire cost was less than $250! It could have been less, but I wanted to ensure that I generated enough activity from the designers because then I would have plenty of options to choose from before making my final decision.

You are basically running a contest which requires designers to show off their skills and compete to earn your business. Here are the four steps as described on their website.  

Step 1: Create Your Design Brief

I found it to be very helpful to take your time with this step and go into as much detail as needed so the designers have a rough idea where to start. Here's what I wrote:

"Brief Overview: I'm a 36 year old guy who is starting an internet marketing company named PullnotPush for small to mid-sized businesses. I'm really excited about becoming a partner with a pioneering inbound marketing software company named HubSpot. Please check out their site so you have an idea of what I'm trying to accomplish. You'll then know why this is going to be a fantastic and successful business venture. Also, here is a link to a quick and funny video I did on the streets of New York so you can get a glimpse of my personality too.

Target Audience: Small to mid-sized businesses looking to increase the amount of leads they receive from visitors on their website. Their marketing strategy will involve participation in social media, blogging, engaging in forums, etc. Some benefits of HubSpot's software include web traffic analytics, blog optimization tool, keyword research, competitor analysis, social media tracking, etc. All of this is accomplished using a single interface. Now do you see why I am so excited??"   

Step 2: Set Your Budget

You decide how much you want to pay the designer. The winner is awarded the 'prize' if you choose their design. Generally speaking, prizes range from $100 - $600 depending on the complexity of the project. Obviously, the more you offer, the more designers will be willing to put forth their best effort.

Step 3: Work with the Designers

I'm amazed that some people who use this service don't give good feedback, or don't respond until the very end. Personally, I was checking my messages every couple of hours so I wouldn't miss any opportunity to tell them if they were on the right track.

Step 4: Choose Your Favorite Design

The contest will run for an entire week (unless you specify otherwise). However, if you are happy with a particular design, you can award the prize at any time during the week and choose the winner. The designer will then send you the final design along with copyright to the original art work.

Happy co-creating! And when you've completed this task, then you can move onto learning the importance of keywords for improving your website ranking. Leave a comment with your logo design experiences. We'd love to hear from you.    

Comments

Hey Dan! 
 
 
 
Thanks for this...going to look into this myself. 
 
 
 
Andy
Posted @ Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:22 PM by Andy Xhignesse
Mari - Great! You never know where the next project will come from. Best of luck to her.  
Andy - I appreciate you stopping by and letting me know it was helpful. Yes, check them out.
Posted @ Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:11 PM by dan ronken
Thanks for sharing, Dan. I will definitely use it when needed. On the business side, what a great idea!
Posted @ Monday, August 31, 2009 7:55 AM by Itai
Thanks Dan, another good site iswww.elance.com. I am using them to create my logo, corporate id, and website and it is all under $600! It is the same concept as 99Designs. You just put out a scope of work and let them bid for your business.
Posted @ Monday, August 31, 2009 9:06 AM by Kendall
Hey Itai keep coming back because if there are more comments similar to Kendalls, we might be able to create an entire separate post with additional options (competitors) to 99 Designs. Thanks Kendall!
Posted @ Monday, August 31, 2009 9:55 AM by dan ronken
Good custom work has no free samples. 
 
Before you consider a contest-oriented service like 99 designs, I encourage you to check out a site called No Spec: 
 
http://www.no-spec.com/articles/ten-reasons/ 
 
Basically, you're asking people to do their professional work for free, with the hopes of possibly being paid. Think about that before you go this route. 
 
I highly encourage you to switch to a service more like the one Kendall suggested, elance.com. This site allows people to bid on jobs, without actually performing them before being chosen. See the difference?
Posted @ Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:44 PM by Delaina
Your graphic is amazingly apropos. A whole bunch of designers in sweat-shop mode, working for nothing so that you can save a few bucks on your logo.  
 
Very progressive.
Posted @ Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:17 PM by Steve Douglas
Hi Delaina, 
Yes, I agree that a service such as 99 Designs does create an environment where there is extreme competition and the designer is at risk of not earning for their labor. 
I have thought about this a great deal, and have concluded that a service such as this, helps out folks who may have more time than money. It gives them a chance to showcase their talents.  
Also, the offeror gets to work with multiple designers during the process and choose which one they feel most comfortable with. 
I guess this service is a prime example of how a 'flat world' benefits some, while potentially making it harder for others. 
However, I think there is plenty of business for everyone. :)
Posted @ Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:25 PM by dan ronken
Steve, 
That really hasn't been my experience with this service. Actually, I keep in contact with my new friend (a college student in Romania) and have given him some additional business since creating the logo, and hopefully more in the future as well.  
Is that a bad thing?
Posted @ Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:40 PM by dan ronken
Hi Dan... long time! You look great and I am happy to see you are doing well. Looks like you have had some fantastic experiences! 
 
Anyway... I noticed your post on FB and felt compelled to chime in as I am a graphic designer. I can see the appeal of working with a site like 99 (many logos for cheap), but designers who work on spec, for the most part, are really torturing the industry. And they really aren't doing themselves a favor either, considering they will have trouble making much of a living since they are driving rates and standards into the ground.  
 
How can I explain to my clients and potential clients that a logo might run them upwards of $1000 (since i may spend 10-15 hours minimum) if they can get hundreds of options for $250? This type of website (and these designers) may put me out of business. I guess then I'll be forced to fight for the pennies along with other 99 designers. Hmmm... maybe instead of doing my own work, I can just hire 99 and charge my clients less. I could get my laundry done then I suppose. 
 
Erin
Posted @ Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:17 PM by Erin Fulkerson Gibbons
I really don't believe in this method at all and it's like a designer working for free. And being a designer unless it's a family member will never work for free.
Posted @ Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:50 PM by Joe
Hi Erin! 
Wow, what a nice surprise to see an old high school friend stop by. Thank you. 
 
I really wasn't expecting such blowback from the design community. I was thinking more ideas about differentiation in the marketplace would be taking place.  
 
"How can I explain to my clients and potential clients that a logo might run them upwards of $1000 (since i may spend 10-15 hours minimum) if they can get hundreds of options for $250?"  
 
I think the long view answer is that you won't be able to justify those rates if the client can receive acceptable work for 25% of the cost.  
 
I feel bad for my designer friends but what's the alternative? Shut down these sites?
Posted @ Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:18 PM by dan ronken
After reading all the comments I have to agree on both sides. I am in sales and driving costs down can dilute the market but as Dan mentioned above what is the alternative when others are willing to work for such less? I do agree also with Dan's point that sometimes people will work for less to showcase their work or prove themselves within a market (I have done it too). I also will look for a good deal like 99Designs or Elance to get my work done when I am on a shoestring budget. Guilty as charged...
Posted @ Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:47 PM by Kendall
Dan 
 
I have to agree with the designers here and add some to that. While it is a great resource to go to the sites to find freelancers to work on a logo on the cheap, many times people get a logo for let's say a website. A jpeg will work for that and you can use it nicely as the resolution for a website is lower than in printed materials. So now you want to use that logo on a printed piece. Maybe they send the eps file. Unless you are a designer or have the design programs, this is more or less useless to you as you cannot even open the file. Now you have to find someone who can work with the eps file (again on the cheap) and create what you need. Also graphic standards for the logo have not been created - reversing it out, minimum font sizes, cmyk or pms breakdowns, kerning, letting, gradients, etc. These are all very important factors when placing your logo on various marketing materials.  
 
Also, the feedback I have gotten from my artists is that sometimes the logos already exist in the artists logo library and they just change the name and some colors. No real creativity nor ownership/differentiaton.  
 
You indicated that you have given your designer some more work which is great but many do not.  
 
Part of the my agency's offerings is graphic design. And sites like this are as Erin said are torturing us. I am personally not a designer and as I have my design team but am finding it much more difficult to justify our pricing and why it is advantageous to work with an agency and not someone who will work for free.  
 
Posted @ Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:45 AM by Suzanne Vara
Hey Everyone, 
 
Great comments... 
 
It is definitely an a nuanced discussion. Many designers on the site are just starting out trying to get experience working with real clients, build a portfolio, polish their skills, build a community, get feedback etc... 
 
99designs provides a ton of opportunity in this regard. We pool a ton of projects together and let designers jump in and let their skills do the selling. As was pointed out above that many times when a project is won it leads to additional follow on work for that designer. So it is not really a $300 for a logo...it is $300 and a qualified lead for a future client relationship. 
 
99designs also provides a great deal of opportunity to established designers who want to tap into business outside their local area. 
 
Here are two profiles on designers in the community: 
 
This one is a freelance logo designer who lives in San Francisco and began using 99designs when he was just starting out - http://bit.ly/16sqNt 
 
This is a profile of a designer who has run a successful web design business for the past 10 years but started using 99designs when business did not pick back up as usual after the holiday slow down this past January - http://bit.ly/ZRDk9 
 
Cheers, and do let me know id you have any questions. 
 
Cheers, 
Jason Aiken 
99designs.com 
 
Posted @ Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:43 AM by Jason Aiken
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